Is the Pope Catholic? Is Ireland Catholic? 

A picture is worth a thousand words, they say. An idiom, a rhetorical question, and an adage have been used to demonstrate the power of language. It is the power of language which I wish to speak to throughout this piece. 

Like Britain, Ireland is not immune to the effects of all things Americana. However, unlike Britain, Ireland’s raison d’être lay with its adherence to the successor of St Peter. For those Irish faithful, it still matters when the Holy Father meets with world leaders and speaks on matters of the faithful. This is more so with a president who claims allegiance with the Irish identity, meets the Holy Father. 

Accordingly, we are left with the question as to what to make of the so-called Irish president and the leader of Ireland’s Catholics recent meeting?

A good benchmark would be to compare the appearances of the captured meet with a relevant comparator, say with the former president Donald Trump. 

One need not be eagle eyed to note that the demeanor of the Holy Father with the Donald was much different than his demeanor with the current POTUS. In the former, the Holy Father cuts a figure of an individual getting their photo captured at a birthday party they would rather not be with, and in the latter the figure cut is one that would signal the meeting of two like-minded individuals. However, despite this appearance of uniformity, the picture reveals another truth; the truth that appearances can be deceiving. 

The reason? A rudimentary understanding of Catholic teaching and even the weakest critic of Christianity in terms of knowledge, knows that following the church’s teaching on abortion is diametrically opposed to the current president’s view on abortion. Prior to becoming POTUS, Biden remarked that the law that allows for abortion in America, namely Roe v. Wade ‘must remain the law of the land’. Such a view is without question the opposite of The Canon of the Catholic Church which tells us, ‘A person who procures a completed abortion incurs a latae sententiae (automatic) excommunication’, Can. 1398.

This clear divide between the law of the Catholic Church, and the Catholic POTUS’ actions has led some bishops’ notably Bishop Schneider to remark that ‘pro-abortion politicians should never be permitted to receive holy communion’. The perspective of Bishop Schneider comes against the backdrop of the recent 168 to 55 decision to draft a teaching document on politicians who support abortion. 

This document could be used as justification by some Bishops to deny communion to those politicians who actively engage and promote actions against Catholic teaching. This document will return for debate when the bishops return for conference this November. 

The question will be, what will be the surrounding thought when this conference returns? Well, if the media reports of the POTUS meeting with the Holy Father is to be believed, POTUS was told he is a ‘good Catholic’ and to ‘keep receiving communion’. If truth can be attained in 2021, we can take these reports with a pinch of salt given these are from so-called ‘traditional media’. 

Nevertheless, alarm bells are raised when a group of individuals who usually have the views of Christianity that would make Nietzsche’s criticism of Christianity seem tame, suddenly start celebrating the union of a pope and a politician who aligns with the views of the time. It is also interesting that the Vatican has declined to comment on claims as to whether the Holy Father told Biden to keep receiving communion. Compare the willingness to comment on the need to ‘build bridges’ during the administration of Donald Trump, with the reluctance to state the need for politicians professing Catholicism to follow Catholic teaching.

The episode will add to the ongoing saga of a Pope who appears objectively to be more aligned with a more liberal strain of Christianity as opposed to a conservative strain of Christianity. 

Ultimately, the debate will continue leading to the sad conclusion that the flock will be led astray and divided as to what is the correct teaching, and as to what is the correct understanding of the guidance given. The answer appears to be in the understanding of the language used for this area of concern. What does it mean to be Catholic? How to follow Catholic teaching? How to understand Catholic instruction from teachers who don’t seem to understand the instruction themselves. Well for the Irish, the answer to the confusion may be gained in the meeting of two Irish Catholics, as they remark ‘Dia dhuit’. God be with us all.

Posted by Michael Sonne

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  1. Question, Think 04/11/2021 at 7:28 pm

    From The Article – Is the Pope Catholic? Is Ireland Catholic?
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    The pope is a globalist. Catholicism is globalism. Catholic Ireland was/is globalist in culture. Irish RCC groups are heavily behind enormous amounts of mass-immigration into Ireland. They always were and continue to be! The majority of irish politicans that bow to globalist ideologues were all educated in catholic christian schools and colleges, the majority identify as catholic, were all influenced by priests and bishops of the RCC from an education standpoint.

    People can make excuses, that is fine. Pretend that things are different. They are not! Facts are facts. The RCC pope calls for more third world immigration into europe, the RCC pope calls for action around the climate hoax. So will the next RCC pope. Nothing says otherwise. Irish politicans just follow their leader!

    So either disgruntled catholics in ireland form a new church in the spirit of something like celtic-christianity, a church that rome destroyed through the Laudabiliter, or just keep complaining. The RCC is not going to change to suit a disgruntled minority of catholics in ireland.

    For those saying that a religon can not be nationalist in practice, then look at Japanese shinto. Is shinto globalist in theory? NO! It is a native faith of japan!

    Celtic christianity for example was a more nationalist form of christianity than the RCC in ireland. I have never seen celtic artwork from the RCC! But christianity itself has never been an original native faith of Ireland. The first Gaels in Ireland had a completely different pantheon! Even in modern times, some of that pantheon survives in seasonal celebrations. Even halloween is a continuation of that pantheon as the entire festival is based on the “Gaelic Samhain”

    If the RCC were serious about being anti-abortion, they could have excommunicate irish catholic politicans who pushed and legalised abortion! Anyone saying that the RCC is a holy and mighty defender of irish birth rates? Why are so many male irish priests forbidden to be fathers? That has decreased irish birth rates aswell and has done so historically. Thousands upon thousands of irish gaelic catholic priests were never fathers! Thousands upon thousands of irish gaelic nuns have never given birth, were never real mothers! All due to RCC teachings.

    Depriving male priests of not being able to have wives and be fathers due to the ideology of RCC Teachings, is not something i would ever agree with. It is supression of the natural instincts for humans, if they are not allowed to procreate and make life.

    ( Genesis 9:7 – And you, be fruitful and multiply, teem on the earth and multiply in it. )

    Even reading the bible itself contradicts some RCC teachings.

    Then you have the abuse stuff around the RCC and the stuff around the historical abhorrent neglect that went on in Tuam.

    The excuses are pathetic to be honest. It is fine if people choose to be catholic, but at least acknowledge the historical criminality that went on in the RCC, and stop making excuses or pretending it never happened. It is an insult to the victims!

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    From The Article – However, unlike Britain, Ireland’s raison d’être lay with its adherence to the successor of St Peter.
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    Oh great, just completely forget some of the oldest inhabitants of Ireland who Gaels descend from. Gaels were never originally christian. Gaels were never originally worshipping St Peter!

    The Gaels were in Ireland way before christianity and later RCC! The gaels were polytheists in culture originally. Their original culture was never to bend the knee to rome and their foreign deity. The old gaels had their own pantheon of deities! There are countless place names in Ireland named after those deities! The old gaelic tribes used to raid roman britain aswell! They had clan systems lead by chieftains. Independent tribes with the odd high king. Ireland was rarely ever united as a country in those times.

    When europe was being christianized, some powerful Irish chieftains converted to christianity for political/power reasons to fall into line with the neighbours on the continent. Some polytheist chieftains rejected the conversion and were murdered. The converted christian/polytheist style chieftains decided to develop their own christian style church, that was very independent from rome. What did rome do later? Lauched the Laudabiliter and sent in Normans guided by Dermot MacMurrough to crush the independence of that church and bring ireland under full roman rule through their proxy rulers, the normans!

    Not the english, not the british, but rome was the start of Ireland being colonized. Normans were just a tool for the roman church to deprive irish chieftains of their lands, and their independent style celtic christian church.

    Irish men proclaiming themselves to love Ireland and using the RCC to express that love for Ireland is very hypocritical, in my opinion.

    I mean, for pure consistency sake at least, if you are to hate how Ireland was brutally colonized, then criticise the roman catholic church aswell. It is hypocritical to only criticise britain alone for the island being colonized. All that lead up to the “Protestant Ascendancy”, and domination of ireland through a minority of landlords.

    Norman lords stole lots of land from some gaelic chieftains before the “Protestant Ascendancy”, therefore they were some of the original landlords that weakened gaelic dominance of the island. Those normans were told to invade the island by a pope of the roman catholic church, guided by Dermot MacMurrough. The english state supported their claims to territory in the various regions of Ireland. The Lordship of Ireland got created and the english king ruled!

    When those normans started to mix with, and got friendly with gaels over time, and when they started to speak gaelic themselves, the “Statutes of Kilkenny” was launched to suppress gaelic language and culture. The first type of penal laws against the gaelic language.

    Who told the normans to invade? The pope of that time.

    As i said, catholicism/christianity is globalism. But people can always just pretend it is not.

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  2. Question,Think 04/11/2021 at 8:03 pm

    From The Article – Is the Pope Catholic? Is Ireland Catholic?
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    The pope is a globalist. Catholicism is globalism. Ireland is a globalist country, run by globalists. Catholic Ireland was/is globalist in culture. Irish RCC groups are heavily behind enormous amounts of mass-immigration into Ireland. They always were and continue to be! The majority of irish politicans that bow to globalist ideologues were all educated in catholic christian schools and colleges, the majority identify as catholic, were all influenced by priests and bishops of the RCC from an education standpoint.

    People can make excuses, that is fine. Pretend that things are different. They are not! Facts are facts. The RCC pope consistently call huge amounts of third world immigration into europe. He basically calls for europe to take in the entire world and their problems. The RCC pope calls for action around the climate hoax, thus more communism masquerading around as “Climate Change”, so will the next RCC pope. Nothing says otherwise. Irish politicans just follow their leader!

    So either disgruntled catholics in ireland form a new church in the spirit of something like celtic-christianity, a church that rome destroyed through the Laudabiliter, or just keep complaining. The RCC is not going to change to suit a disgruntled minority of catholics in ireland. The RCC will just adopt itself and align itself with increasing more globalist culture.

    For those saying that a religon can not be native in practice, then look at Japanese shinto. Is shinto globalist in theory? NO! It is a native faith of japan!

    Celtic christianity for example was a more nationalist form of christianity than the RCC in ireland. I have never seen celtic artwork from the RCC! But christianity itself has never been an original native faith of Ireland. The first Gaels in Ireland had a completely different pantheon! Even in modern times, some of that pantheon survives in seasonal celebrations. Even halloween is a continuation of that pantheon as the entire festival is based on the “Gaelic Samhain”

    If the RCC were serious about being anti-abortion, they could have excommunicate irish catholic politicans who pushed and legalised abortion! Anyone saying that the RCC is a holy and mighty defender of irish birth rates? Why are so many male irish priests forbidden to be fathers? That has decreased irish birth rates aswell and has done so historically. Thousands upon thousands of irish gaelic catholic priests were never fathers! Thousands upon thousands of irish gaelic nuns have never given birth. All due to RCC teachings.

    Depriving male priests of not being able to have wives and be fathers due to the ideology of RCC Teachings, is not something i would ever agree with. It is a supression of the natural instincts of humans, when they are not allowed to procreate and make life.

    ( Genesis 9:7 – And you, be fruitful and multiply, teem on the earth and multiply in it. )

    Even reading the bible itself contradicts some RCC teachings.

    Then you have the abuse stuff around the RCC and the stuff around the historical abhorrent neglect that went on in Tuam.

    The excuses are pathetic to be honest. It is fine if people choose to be catholic, but at least acknowledge the historical criminality that went on in the RCC, and stop making excuses or pretending it never happened. It is an insult to the victims!

    ___________________________________________________________________
    From The Article – However, unlike Britain, Ireland’s raison d’être lay with its adherence to the successor of St Peter.
    ____________________________________________________________________

    Oh great, just completely forget that Gaels were never originally christian. Gaels were never originally worshipping St Peter! The first peoples in Ireland were never christian.

    The Gaels were in Ireland way before the RCC! The gaels were polytheists in culture originally. Their original culture was never to bend the knee to rome and their foreign deity. The old gaels had their own pantheon of deities! There are countless place names in Ireland named after those deities! The old gaelic tribes used to raid roman britain aswell! They had clan systems lead by chieftains. Independent tribes with the odd high king. Ireland was rarely ever united as a country in those times.

    When europe was being christianized, some powerful Irish chieftains converted to christianity for political/power reasons to fall into line with the neighbours on the continent. Some polytheist chieftains rejected the conversion and were murdered. Hence all that stuff about the snakes being banished. The converted christian/polytheist style chieftains decided to develop their own christian style church, that was independent from rome. What did rome do later? Lauched the Laudabiliter and sent in Normans guided by Dermot MacMurrough to crush the independence of that church and bring ireland under full roman rule through their proxy rulers, the normans!

    The roman catholic church and their pope was the original reason for Ireland being colonized. Normans were just a tool for the roman church to deprive irish chieftains of their lands, and their independent style celtic christian church in that time.

    Irish men proclaiming themselves to love Ireland and using the RCC to express that love for Ireland is very hypocritical, in my opinion.

    I mean, for consistency sake at least, if you are to hate how Ireland was brutally colonized, then criticise the roman catholic church aswell. It is hypocritical to only criticise britain alone for the island being colonized. It can be argued that there would have been no “Protestant Ascendancy”, and domination of ireland through a minority of landlords if the normans were never allowed to invade Ireland through a Laudabiliter put forward by the pope of that time.

    Norman lords stole lots of land from some gaelic chieftains before the “Protestant Ascendancy”, therefore they were some of the original landlords that weakened gaelic dominance of the island. Those normans were told to invade the island by a pope of the roman catholic church, guided by Dermot MacMurrough. The english state supported their claims to territory in the various regions of Ireland. The Lordship of Ireland got created and the english king ruled!

    When those normans started to mix with, and got friendly with gaels over time, and when they started to speak gaelic themselves, the “Statutes of Kilkenny” was launched to suppress gaelic language and culture. The first type of penal laws against the gaelic language.

    Who told the normans to invade? The pope of that time. One can easily argue that the decline of the irish language was because of a pope centuries ago. Blaming it all on the britain is stupid.

    As i said, catholicism/christianity is globalism, and its entire history is a form of globalist expansionism. But people can always just pretend it is not. Protecting the poor, but waving around the baskets for the silver in their temples filling their own treasure chests. HAHAHA.

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  3. The flock he leads ,false idol worshippers ,baby killers ,men who lie with other men. The wretched emptiness he presides over.

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