Gaslighting is nothing new in modern politics. Day after day, massive media and political institutions both downplay the importance of certain elements of world history, while massively inflating others.
For those of us critical of the contemporary world, this is hardly news. One has come to expect that the story presented to you on a variety of topics are warped to a nigh unrecognizable degree.
And yet the lengths to which the worldwide media has gone in trying to erase the existence of Irish slaves still shocks me.
Simply putting in the terms ‘Irish Slaves’ into Google reveals nothing but gaslighting articles speaking out about how the very idea of an Irish slave is a ‘white supremacist’ myth. Of course, the authors of these pages more often than not are the descendants of groups who directly benefited from the mass exploitation of the Irish, but let’s leave that to one side.
So, were the Irish slaves? Before I answer this question, I will set myself a ground rule. Purely for the sake of argument, I will not consider ‘Indentured Servitude’ as a form of slavery in this article. While this barbaric practice would constitute a form of slavery to any reasonable person, for my mostly Anglo interlocutors, it does not.
From what I can see, this is due to the fact that the abhorrent fate of an indentured servant was supposedly not something inherited by one’s children. Never mind the fact that those children would have been deprived of their homeland and their culture by the practice. For the privileged writers at the Irish Times, such a loss is apparently trivial, and as such ‘Indentured Servitude’ cannot be considered a kind of slavery.
But that’s okay. I don’t need to cite the awful experiences of the Irish in North America. Or in Jamaica. Or Australia. While my personal belief is that this handicap imposed on me by our so-called ‘intellectual’ class is an unjustifiable one, borne largely out of anti-european hatred, it is nevertheless a handicap I can live with.
So, without further ado, let us take a brief look at the history of Irish slaves.
Irish slaves have existed in one form or another since the genesis of Irish as an identity. Celtic Ireland had a slave caste in the form of the daer fuidhir. These people were not entitled to bear arms, nor to recompense if a family member was murdered. It was also not uncommon for these slaves to be sold off to labour in Roman Britain.
However, the daer fuidhir caste wasn’t utterly inescapable, and the prospect of a family moving up the caste system was far from unheard of. As such, perhaps our beloved ‘intellectuals’ may not want to call this a form of slavery either.
Slavery in Ireland only really hit its height with the arrival of the Vikings. This warlike foreign force was fond of their thralls, slaves they took from the people they raided and conquered. Dublin served as a significant hub for the sale of Gaelic slaves both domestically and internationally. Such slaves were so prolific throughout the Norse world that a significant proportion of Scandinavian DNA can be traced back to Irish slaves. This goes especially for Iceland, where the DNA of the average resident is around 30% Gaelic.
To say the life of a thrall was brutal would be a massive understatement. Both physical and psychological abuse was common for these slaves. In fact, it appears that, upon their master’s death, thralls were often ritually sacrificed in order to follow their master into the afterlife.
Arab explorer and theologian Ibn Fadlan describes one such sacrifice in gruesome detail, writing that a female slave was raped by multiple men, stabbed, and finally throttled, before burning with her master and the rest of his grave goods. While such 3rd party accounts of indigenous traditions should always be looked upon with a certain degree of skepticism, the archeological record strongly supports Ibn Fadlan’s account. It is rather common to find beheaded bodies alongside sans any grave goods alongside the remains of an important Viking.
However, perhaps the plight of the thrall occurred too long ago for the ‘intellectuals’ in our society to actually count it as relevant to our discussion. If such is the case, then I will turn our attention towards the Barbary slave trade.
From the early 16th to late 18th century, Barbary corsairs were a near constant threat on European shorelines. These pirates primarily traded in slaves, capturing unsuspecting people in coastal villages and selling them in their base cities of Algiers, Tripoli and Tunis. White slaves were of particular value to these pirates, with caucasian females often fetching far higher prices within the Ottoman trade compared to women of other backgrounds. Historians estimate that up to 1.25 million people of European descent were abducted and sold into slavery by these pirates.
The Sack of Baltimore in West Cork is perhaps the most famous of these Barbary raids. Led by famous Dutch Muslim convert and pirate, Murat Reis the Younger, Barbary pirates abducted the entire population of mostly Protestant settlers in a single night. As a result, Baltimore was abandoned until the 18th century.
The Barbary slave trade made up a small part of the much larger slave industry within the Ottoman Empire. Unlike other civilizations, the Ottoman Empire was truly built on slavery. Between a fifth and a quarter of the population of Istanbul at one stage were slaves, consisting of labourers, concubines, and even bureaucrats. Quite famously, a significant part of the Ottoman Empire’s military were made up of slave converts, taken from non-muslim families as boys and molded into the Empires most elite soldiers.
In conclusion, the Irish were most certainly slaves, and any attempt to say otherwise is blatantly false. So why do so many powerful people, institutions and publications make this claim?
One response I am expecting is that no one is making this claim. Instead, these people are making the claim that the Irish were never slaves on the American continents. However, this response does not stand up to the most basic scrutiny.
If all the articles calling out the ‘white supremacist myth’ of Irish slavery were merely ‘refuting’ the idea that there were Irish slaves in the US, then every single article would feature two things. First, they would be clearly marked as saying that the Irish were not slaves specifically in America. While some articles do indeed do this, they more often than not only passively mention the fact they’re talking about America only, with most not even mentioning the geographical limit at all.
Secondly, they would also clearly point out that the Irish were slaves in other areas of the world at various points in history, just as I have in this article. None of the articles ‘refuting Irish slavery’ do this. Instead, they will blather on and on about how ‘Irish’ people have benefitted from slavery, using the term to refer to the protestant ascendency of the island. Victim blaming at its finest.
With that argument out of the way, let us return to the question of why so many people, institutions and publications claim the Irish were never slaves. My answer is as follows.
Firstly, it is a result of the reduction of the Irish race into the construct of ‘whiteness’. While the throwing around of the term social construct is usually the sole remit of the modern progressive, the dogmatic denial of Irish slavery is actually the result of such a social construct.
With the overwhelming dominance of the United States in the 21st century, the contemporary intellectual class wishes nothing more but to emulate their perceived center of the world. As such, the issues of this land are being examined more and more through an American lens.
As a result, ethnic groups that have spent thousands of years fighting each other are not only reconciled, but conflated in the mind of the modern ‘intellectual’. In the minds of these people, a Protestant landlord was no different than his Gaelic serf. Why? Because they were both ‘White’, and they were both ‘Irish’. Therefore, the sins of one are the sins of the other.
Another consequence of this americaphilia is the denigration of the reality of events that occurred outside of the United States. For these ‘intellectuals’, the only history that really matters is American history, and the history that was impacted by and had a direct impact on the American continent. This is why when the likes of Boko Haram kidnap an entire village, such an event is given next to no coverage, but when a police officer kills a black man in the US, mass protests are warranted, even during a deadly pandemic.
When it comes to the Irish slavery question then, all that really matters is what happened in North America. Since no Irish people were slaves in North America, then Irish slavery is, by definition, a myth. The existence of Irish slaves outside America at the exact same time is of no consequence, as the only events that are truly real are those that happened in America.
Lastly, as mentioned at the start of this article, probably the greatest reason for the propagation of this lie is that these groups have a massive anti-European bias. More specifically, they have an anti-American-of-european-descent bias. The question of Irish slavery, and the massive media crusade against the recognition of it as having existed, really has next to nothing to do with Irish people at all. Instead, it is merely used as a weapon against so-called ‘white’ Americans who believe they have a right to stand up for themselves. Ultimately, the very same people who are descended from those who exploited this island for centuries are now using that very history to subdue another group they wish to oppress.
However, no matter how much these people try to gaslight history, the truth remains eternal. The Irish were indeed slaves. Deal with it.
Almost One Million Irish Slaves At Risk Of Being Scrubbed From History
https://newspunch.com/almost-one-million-irish-slaves-at-risk-of-being-scrubbed-from-history/
Article was removed
The book, They were white and they were slaves, by Michael Hoffman is an essential read, as is the work of the African, professor Tony Martin, now on YouTube and bitchute. White Christian civilization stop the slave trade, thanks to the work of William Wilberforce and others. Our civilization is the only civilization to have outlawed slavery. It still exists elsewhere.
There is an out-of-the-way glen in the mountains of western Virginia, whose inhabitants are called “Dominickers”. The doctor who would, from time to time, visit its inhabitants, as an act of genuine Christian charity, explained one day (in the 1960s), that the inhabitants were an amalgam of the descendants of runaways, fleeing from involuntary servitude. There were Africans, Europeans (mostly Irish, especially, but not exclusively, from the 1650s Cromwellian “to Hell or to Connacht” period), and native Americans – far from their own tribal lands. The doctor mentioned that a woman of that mountain community once showed him a “necklace”, which had been handed down in her family, for generations. He immediately identified it as a Rosary – she hadn’t a clue of what he was talking about.
Their physical appearance generally reflected the blend – including bone structure and skin color. Once in a while one would come down into The Valley, usually integrating with a “colored” community. One of these, who had a responsible job in a hospital (where I was once a patient) became a dear friend.
Indentured servitude means that there was an agreement between two parties to work for set length of time in return for transport to the new world. However Irish people were often kidnapped, transported, imprisoned and forced to work against their will. They were slaves. The “debunking” articles are unable to deny that Irish people were kidnapped, transported , imprisoned and forced to work against their will. Instead they call these people “involuntary indentured servants ” or some other recently made up term. This is nothing short of fraud.
This article is pathetic. It is an effort to whitewash the part played by England in the enslavement of irish people.
We know that the British tried to wipe us out completely between 1845 and 1851. It also happened further back under Cromwell. It wouldn’t have bothered them a jot to sell children as slaves and it would have had the added advantage of clearing Ireland for them. We must however, be careful that this argument is not used by others to argue against black people when they talk about what has been done to their people in the past. The number of black Africans who died as a result of slavery is generally put at 180 million.
I am looking at records of court cases in Waterford that go back as far as 1311.
One was for the murder of a man called “Roger” who was an Irishman and of the surname of “Ohedirscoll” (O’Driscoll no doubt).
That fact that he was an Irishman got his assailant off the hook. The court ruled that he “was held to be an Irishman all his life. Therefore as regards the felony William is quit”. However, the court also ruled that the Irishman was the King’s property and that the King would have to be compensated for the loss of his Irishman. “let William be re-committed to gaol until he find pledges of five marks, to be paid to the King for the said hibernicus”.
In another case the killer even claimed as his defence that since the victim was an Irishman, no crime had been committed. He went on to say that he was happy to compensate the Irishman’s owner for his loss.
Robert le Waleys, charged with the death of John, son of Yvor
McGillemory, came and acknowledged that he slew John. He says,
however, that he could not by that slaying have committed felony,
because John was pure hibernicus and not of free blood, and when the
lord of the said John, whose hibernicus John was when he was slain,
wished to demand payment for the slaying of John, his hibernicus, he,
Robert, would be ready to answer for the payment as justice required.
It is clear from these two cases alone that an Irishman was the property of his owner and was thus a slave in the eyes of the law. I know that the original article about Irish slaves was poorly researched and partly falsified in that it implied that the Zong Massacre of 1781 was the massacre of 132 Irish slaves when the victims were in fact black Africans.
It just seems to me that the two sides in the debate have their own agendas and the truth might get trampled on. I believe we should still report the Irish slavery while making it clear that we in no way seek to denigrate the suffering of the Africans who were slaves.
Thank you for putting this issue in perspective. I believe that this debate is mostly about trying to minimize the black slaves experience which in no way compares. A long ago relative, Edward Doty, was an indentured servant on the Mayflower. As an indentured servant, he had a contract and chose to work to get to America. He worked off his debt and went on to have many heirs. Not to say that there weren’t Irish who were kidnapped against their will, but I still think the underlying theme in this is that African Americans should stop complaining. Shame!
Both African Americans and the Irish faced persecution and oppression in colonial America, the difference however is one continues to face it while the other “became white”. I recommend reading Noel Ignatiev’s “How the Irish Became White”. Your ancestors faced so much hardship and oppression- yes, 100% but I don’t think you have any right to tell the “African Americans” to “stop complaining” because they still face discrimination due to systemic racism embedded in our society. What happened to the Irish was terrible, especially considering how they were forced to migrate out of their homeland due to An Gorta Mor, but instead of saying Black people should “stop complaining” maybe Irish folk should. Your history has been attempted to be erased for centuries due to English colonialism, and instead of looking at them for the destruction of your ancestors and loss of your lands, you look to those who were oppressed with you. It should be noted I in no way shape or form want to dismiss your history, that being said you shouldn’t do the same to others. It’s not a competition, you have the same enemy.
You do understand right that the Irish are still literally the only group it’s somehow okay to speak hate speech about and make offensive jokes about, right?
Irish discrimination is most certainly not history.
“How the Irish became white” is an excellent book but it is filled with issues itself as well. The Irish have been heavily oppressed throughout history, that is a fact. However, Noel Ignatiev implies that the Irish became white in the mid-20th century, yet during Jim Crow laws in the late-19th century, Irish people were allowed in the “white only” facilities, such as public toilets. They were not made to go into the “coloured” facilities.
Maybe the coloureds made them use the whites.
Mark Fennell – how about I rip off your fcking head faggt? Get all British out of Ireland—
In Canada the majority are Irish. The poorest city for over 120 years in an Irish city. They received no special rights in hiring that other non-whites get. They were kicked out of Ottawa to the small towns although they built the rideau canal and many died. Irish and French were the first settlers in Bytown, the old name for Ottawa. Lowertown was Irish and Uppertown was french. The last to be hired are Irish people in Canada especially in liberal cities. Barbados was 98% Irish slaves at one point. We lost our language because we were not allowed to speak it: they would whip us or cut our tongues out. The first slave woman to be hung in America was an Irish woman in Boston in 1688: for speaking in her mother tongue. They and the Scottish were the slaves in America before blacks arrived.
All of Europe were slaves from the 5th to the 15th centuries called serfs.
How odd. You don’t think that is more about the ruling elite trying to implicate one race that it had historically enslaved in its crimes against another. After all, that is the only reason they created, popularised and owned the term “white”.
The purpose of bringing this out into the open is to let people know the real history of the Irish being sold by England.
While there were hundreds of thousands Irish slaves it cannot compare to the amount of Africans that were enslaved.
But Irish slavery lasted over 700 years.
May Tara and our families forever stand! What once was will be again. As above, so below.
https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/why-the-irish-were-both-slaves-and-indentured-servants-in-colonial-america
This article will inform readers about Irish slavery.
It is not accessible.
It was removed because of attacks made on the publisher by Liam Hogan.
The Irish were indeed Not slaves, they were by definition in law, of less worth than the average slave!. The loss of an Irish slave was compensated as one would compensate a Dog owner for the loss of his / her pet, in other words said compensation was for loss of property.
In fact at one time the Irishman was of no actual value, until such time/s as their death became an inconvenience to their master / owner or the Crown itself.
The issue around recognizing Irish enslavement is not a new one. In fact at one time the issue of concern was less about enslavement of ones own race and more about enslavement of ones intellectual (or not) equal. Many consider this is the actual birth of ” The Stupid Irish” as a means of both control over and justification for the poor treatment , of what at face value appears to be mistreatment of ones otherwise equal.
The current movement especially within the United States, where it has become almost fashionable to support Black folk, based on their suffering at the hands of their white masters in Europe and the US.
While most Blacks are happy, even inclined towards supporting and giving recognition of their Irish brothers and Sisters in recognizing both the harm and suffering imposed upon them as slaves. Their biggest support group or benefactors (so to speak) , guilt ridden mainly wealthy white Americans will never accept the Irish as having been slaves. As I suspect, that there is both a very uncomfortable and unacceptable stigma surrounding and in conceding the very possibility of enslaving one of their own kind (White skinned) and at the same time admitting those of the white race could have been enslaved, their whole belief system becomes massively unstable.
Simply put it’s a can of worms which at all costs must never be opened. But instead replaced by claims of indentured servitude as opposed to slavery!.
I am not for a moment denying the terrible suffering of the Black person at the hands of his / her White Masters, nor for that matter am I measuring Black enslavement against Irish enslavement. To do so serves absolutely NO PURPOSE !. If two men are killed by the same man, it serves no purpose to try to figure out which victim died first or which suffered most, AS BOTH ARE VICTIMS!.
Tell that to BLM
You might want to read the excellent book, How to be an Antiracist by Ibram Kendi
We inherit the sins of OUR country, not other countries history. U. S. slavery , Jim Crow and we to this day struggle with the unconscious racism put on the Black man and woman? Trying to demean the severity of OUR injustices by comparing it to any other slave history, is in itself a ‘racial dog whistle’. Israel has a history of being enslave and having slaves? Never seen any ”no Irish” served signs, but I remember ” no black” and ”whites only” signs?
I’ve seen signs that read “No dogs, no Irish allowed” and plenty of signs that read “Irish need not apply” also in newspaper clippings!
“We inherit the sins of OUR country…”
Excuse Me… I “inherit” the sins of No One! EVER…! Better get that through your thick skull.
You’re pretending being proud of your ignorance is the same as being proud of your history.
It’s not.
You’re helping to further erase Irish history because it offends you that Ireland was in fact colonized.
Get over it.
Both Africans and Irish suffered greatly. The only difference is Irish were able to blend in thanks to their white skin. That doesn’t rewrite history though. Sorry.
It should also be acknowledged however that as a whole the Irish opposed abolition. Some Irish Americans even supported slavery. For example, In 1854 the former Young Irelander John Mitchel announced that “We deny it is a crime, or a wrong, or even a peccadillo to buy slaves, to sell slaves or to hold slaves, to keep slaves at their work through flogging and other coercive measures.”
Furthermore, In 1861 the Irish priest Daniel W. Cahill wrote that “The negro slaves are far happier than the poor Irish, [and] who will therefore deny [that] the poor Irish cottier, with his life and death firmly in the hands of the cruel landlord, is not in a worse condition and is really a more degraded slave than the negroes of North America?” While this shows that the Irish were massively oppressed, legally they were not seen as slaves. Does this change the hardships faced by the Irish, no, but it’s important to be historically accurate.
You make some very interesting points and the hardships of the Irish and African Americans should not be pinned against one another. However, you fail to acknowledge that as a whole, the Irish Americans were strongly against abolition. Some even supported slavery. For example, In 1854 the former Young Irelander John Mitchel announced that “We deny it is a crime, or a wrong, or even a peccadillo to buy slaves, to sell slaves or to hold slaves, to keep slaves at their work through flogging and other coercive measures.”
Furthermore, In 1861 the Irish priest Daniel W. Cahill wrote that “The negro slaves are far happier than the poor Irish, [and] who will therefore deny [that] the poor Irish cottier, with his life and death firmly in the hands of the cruel landlord, is not in a worse condition and is really a more degraded slave than the negroes of North America?” While this demonstrates that the Irish were heavily oppressed, it shows that legally the Irish were not slaves.
You make some very interesting points and the hardships faced by the Irish and African Americans should not be pinned against one another. However you fail to acknowledge that as a whole the Irish opposed abolition. Some Irish Americans even supported slavery. For example, In 1854 the former Young Irelander John Mitchel announced that “We deny it is a crime, or a wrong, or even a peccadillo to buy slaves, to sell slaves or to hold slaves, to keep slaves at their work through flogging and other coercive measures.”
Furthermore, In 1861 the Irish priest Daniel W. Cahill wrote that “The negro slaves are far happier than the poor Irish, [and] who will therefore deny [that] the poor Irish cottier, with his life and death firmly in the hands of the cruel landlord, is not in a worse condition and is really a more degraded slave than the negroes of North America?” While this shows that the Irish were massively oppressed, legally they were not seen as slaves. Does this change the hardships faced by the Irish, no, but it’s important to be historically accurate.
Very well said!
Both were victims.
These rich “intellectuals” just don’t want to be associated with the possibility that there ancestors may have been equals with the African slaves. All cultures (African, Irish, Chinese etc. because there’s many more ethnicities/ancestors that were subjected to slavery) should be united in knowing that we all have suffering in our “past”. The elites want everyone to bicker and remain segregated because that’s how they stay elite and in control (by causing divide). Fck Liberals! (Oops I mean “intellectuals”)
great article
Another interesting note to Irish in America was in the building of the Washington canal. Congress wanted slaves to help build it. Even though slave owners would be compensated they refused because of the high death rate in canal building and did not want to loose their property. Instead Irish immigrants where were used . In a nut shell the Irish were expendable, slaves were not.
Iirsh built the statue of liberty though and many fell.
Dear Burkean, please consider doing a longer piece/investigation into Limerick based Liam Hogan. He has singlehandedly made this non-issue into a rallying cry for the far left and I have to wonder about any possible ties to Antifa. I understand that the true history has indeed been hijacked by racists in America but frankly if you claim that Bond Servants were not slaves then you also deny the *modern* Bond Servants who are indeed considered slaves by modern organizations seeking to end modern slavery. As far as I can tell most current Bond Servants (in their millions) happen to be people of color.
Irish slaves? No doubt in fact most likely all ethnicities nationality’s were slaves at one point going back far enough and considering internal wars and battles the winning side would no doubt enslave some of the loosing side so throughout human history there were slaves always
I have to agree with this… Countless people have been enslaved throughout history. How about we keep the past where it is, and start having real conversations about the struggles we all face right here and now! And think about what we need to do to ensure that we lift up people instead.
Nicholas, leaving the past behind would indeed give mankind a clean sheet and a new start. However if you want to promote tis as an ideology it will mean demolishing Auschwitz and getting rid of all films that demonize Germany or Japan or North Korea etc. It just seems to me that when a country or a person says that the past should be left behind they mean that certain aspects of their own country’s past should be left behind and other pieces of history should be kept alive. We are constantly hearing from the mainstream media “He who forgets the mistakes of the past is condemned to repeat them”. That’s when they are talking about Germany. However, if one mentions the 150 million people murdered by the British Army or the 200 million people murdered so far by the USA then we are digging up the past and living in the past. Anyway I do agree with you that it would be nice to leave the past behind but I think it’s unlikely that we will be leaving ALL the past behind. Peadar O’Colmáin
Those who believe in history know nothing of the past.
Also very well said!
Lets look at the “current” struggles and not the “past” that none of us are actually living.
For example: when a community is destroyed by a natural disaster and receives no aid or support and has to start over from nothing (personally lived it).
Or: When you’re passed over on jobs because you’re not the right ethnicity (also personally lived it)
Or: Or when you don’t get a chance to go to college because your family is too poor (also personally lived it)
A lot of people have struggles and hardships in life “today” that have nothing to do with “history”
This article is very good and I appreciate it’s writer and the hard work into the real fact finding.
BLM is based in Marxism according to co-founder Patrisse Cullors who is in all the media lately stating it and talking about their agenda and manifesto that can be found on line.
I can not compare African chattel slavery to the various types of slavery found in my Irish/Scottish heritage simply because it is different, but it was slavery. Brutal slavery and it happened. Perhaps the political spin cycle is determined to rinse out the fact white people were slaves so they can forward their agenda.
To admit the truth would only complicate what the left is trying to achieve, a ruling class through socialism and Marxism, to gain control of We The People.
Also to note, when George Washington needed soldiers to fight in America’s different wars, the Irish were usually first to respond. See the history of the people of the Appalachians.
I’d like to do more research on this topic. I only heard about it for the first time last week when my grandma talked about it.
I find that this is important facts of our nation. Blacks do not have a monopoly on ethnicity slavery & this needs to be explored & presented as also part of the founding of this nation.
The articles that try to debunk the Irish slave question always say that the Irish were indentured servants not slaves. They don’t put up evidence to support their claim. If all those Irish were indeed indentured there had to be a contract to give them a date to end their servitude.
I get it that was 400 +/- years ago there at least one contract to prove this. No first hand accounts of an indentured servant..
All I. Hear and see is some one denying slave status.
If we had investigative reporting with sources it would be more definitive. Until then I call Bull crap.
I have been posting about this exact thing for a couple months. I’m wondering if you are the person who I was sharing information on this on Twitter? I used #IrishLivesMatter for every article on this.
But I just wanted to say that I love this. You did an excellent job!
Would appreciate knowing which references were used for writing this post.
Thank you so much for this brilliant post that clears up the GASLIGHTING done by Google.
Using the term, “involuntary indentured servants”… are you kidding me? Slaves. The term you are looking for when you kidnap someone against their will for hundreds of years and make them work for you and treat them less than property or a dog is called being a SLAVE.
I cannot believe the blatant and alarming attempt to not only erase history but the horrible label that if I talk about my ancestors and what they endured, I am just a racist trying to over-shadow, down play or talk over modern and past Black pain . That is absolutely *hysterical.* It all must be acknowledged and I will never deny ANYONES lineage of pain.
Will you?
To silence and condemn someone for speaking of their lineage is beyond demonic. I’m amazed.
Time to start gathering history books before they start burning them.
#1984
Food for thought- in 100 years, white people will be the minority!
The enemy has never been the other race but rather the systems imposed by the greedy.
My Great Great Grandfather was William Lehane of Cork Southern Island, under the illegal occupation of the British he was dispossessed of his home and then later charged with vagrancy (homelessness) well der, forceibly renamed William Lyons. Then he was given a 7 year sentence hard labour to be transported to Australia no chance of ever returning and died before his sentence finished. Yeah you guys are dumb racists for saying it wasn’t slavery and he was a white. In fact the legitimate indigenous of the whole of Britain are the Celts and all other Germanic etc continental Europeans are just invaders including the current Queen, except Boadica who was. Just because some idiot historian didn’t have it happen to his ancestors doesn’t mean it didn’t happen to other Celts ancestors.
Exactly. Well put.
This is just more divide and conquer by those seeking to avoid answering for what their actual ancestors did and instead pretend it was “all white people”. It wasn’t, and they didn’t consider non-WASPs white anyway.
Great article, one needs to be very astute to word play in these times
It has given me much mental ease to hear stories that reflect acknowledgment of Irish slavery. I’m British, Irish, French sprinkled with Native American and several other bloodlines. Its so sad how diligently people are trying to erase Irish slavery from factual history.
Restricted site??
The slave knows how but he doesn’t know why. The Master knows why, and so doesn’t need to know how. The Master is defined by his will, and the slave is defined by his exertions in service to the masters will, in a relationship defined by inequality. It is a perversion of natural justice contrived by morally debased academia, and the essential distortion of reality upon which history is predicated, for the Master to seek to implicate the slave in the consequences of his obedience whilst exonerating his own class. With regard to the ideology underpinning the anti-racist and environmental movements, they are both founded on an exculpatory interpretation of history contrived in the universities under financial incentive for the benefit of the masters and at the expense of the peoples they have enslaved.
the irish raided britain and captured british people as slaves before the romans even came here so its karma, gods punishment and did he ever punish you lot by sending his finest warriors to conquer your land for 800 solid years
To Mark Fennell and you – how about I rip off your fcking heads faggts? Get all British out of Ireland—
why would one want to read a book by an absolute disgusting racist, Ann? Unless you are simply only opposed to white racism.
Check out Cromwell and Ireland.
WRONG! Everybody wants a “ME TOO!” Indentured servitude and chattel slavery are SIMILAR but NOT the SAME! No matter how much you want the Irish (who have gone thru Hell with the English back in the day, no doubt!)to have had a similar period of being “less than”, its just not true. Before anyone can start in with Black people always claiming to be “victims”, what I am about to tell you is not only HISTORY but FACT! Unlike Europeans who were discriminated against in the mid 19th century (Irish, Italians, Germans, etc)Black people probably had a far more difficult time. With practice one could hide an accent. You could changed your name. O’Hearn could become Harris, Johannes can be transformed into Jones, etc. We (Black people)could not change our skin color. Even if you were born free there was a stigma to being Black (ESPECIALLY during Reconstruction)that you could not escape. I have empathy for the Irish, I know about the Troubles. I have empathy for anyone who is an underdog. But just because of that we cannot revise and rewrite history. Peace. From below:
This is incorrect. Claiming the Irish experience of indentured servitude was chattel slavery is a misrepresentation of history.
https://fullfact.org/online/Irish-Slaves/
While the Irish servants of the Caribbean certainly were subjected to severe brutality, their servitude was contractual. In other words, they agreed to servitude.
https://www.lambsreign.com/blog/the-myth-of-the-irish-slave
It’s very similar to what they tried to say about the holocaust being a myth or wasn’t bad like it was historically documented during the times it was happening and at the time the survivors were liberated.
Now we have this gross attack on Irish immigrants from the past being told their ancestors weren’t suppressed when they factually were. No matter your color, culture, etc…..us and other colors and cultures were enslaved by European white people that I have no doubt, and I’m Irish and white with an ancestor blood relative who was a slave under a coal baron in NE Pennsylvania and fought for fairness and was accused of murder with a very unfair corrupt jury of non peers and was hung all for the sake of trying to stomp out a union from forming one of the first.